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		<title>Flame for IDN comments</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2005/03/02/flame-for-idn-comments/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think people somehow misunderstood my previous entry about disabling IDN support in FireFox. It was written right after Mozilla announced they would disable default support for IDN, and before they changed that to just display IDN domains as punycode.
I have even been contacted by &#8220;Security Professionals&#8221;, saying my comments are idiotic and dumb. They [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people somehow misunderstood <a href="http://tomsommer.dk/archives/292-Mozilla-disables-native-IDN-support.html">my previous entry</a> about disabling IDN support in FireFox. It was written right <i>after</i> Mozilla <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/007562.html">announced they would disable default support for IDN</a>, and <i>before</i> <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/007586.html">they changed that</a> to just display IDN domains as punycode.</p>
<p>I have even been contacted by &#8220;Security Professionals&#8221;, saying my comments are idiotic and dumb. They even told me to delete my entry, I told them to stop visiting my blog, but for some unknown reason, they simply won&#8217;t give up &#8212; they keep sending me mails, sounding more and more fascistic for each mail.</p>
<p>What they apparently do not understand, or take the time to comprehend, is that <i>I was right</i>. There is nothing more to it. I was 100% correct in saying that disabling IDN support was a mistake, and Mozilla came to the same conclusion and implemented a much better way of handling the spoofing problem (by displaying links as punycode). It doesn&#8217;t really matter if the solution is not that pretty, because it solves the problem and leaves IDN support working like it did before. You don&#8217;t have to remove features, that people depend on, in order to solve a problem.</p>
<p>So please stop sending me idiotic mails about how wrong you think I was, how I don&#8217;t give a damn about security and how I made a bet with the devil for the souls of all mankind.</p>
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		<title>Mozilla disables native IDN support</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2005/02/15/mozilla-disables-native-idn-support/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an idiotic move, Mozilla has decided to disable native support for IDN domains.
I personally have been able to get dozens of people  to convert to Firefox because it supports IDN domains, by disabling IDN without notice you are not only making my life a living hell (because people will complain and I have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an idiotic move, <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/007556.html">Mozilla has decided</a> to disable native support for IDN domains.</p>
<p>I personally have been able to get dozens of people  to convert to <a href="http://www.getfirefox.com">Firefox</a> because it supports IDN domains, by disabling IDN without notice you are not only making my life a living hell (because people will complain and I have to listen), you are also taking away one of the key reasons for people to use Firefox.</p>
<p>Many domain registries and hosting providers even recommend Firefox on their websites because it supports IDN.</p>
<p>I realize it has been disabled for &#8220;<a href="http://www.shmoo.com/idn/homograph.txt">security reasons</a>&#8220;, but I suspect it will take years for domain registries to find a solution to IDN spoofing.</p>
<p>Big mistake Mozilla, this one will come back to haunt you.</p>
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		<title>Affiliate me this</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2004/09/15/affiliate-me-this/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2004 19:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All these affiliate links for spreadfirefox.com is quickly infecting blogs all around the net. In a move to promote Firefox, and offer something in return, spreadfirefox.com has unleashed a hell of which there is no stopping. I generally disapprove of using or promoting these kinds of links, because I find the whole idea of someone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these affiliate links for <a href="http://spreadfirefox.com">spreadfirefox.com</a> is quickly infecting blogs all around the net. In a move to promote <a href="http://www.firefox.com">Firefox</a>, and offer something in return, <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates/homepage">spreadfirefox.com has unleashed a hell</a> of which there is no stopping. I generally disapprove of using or promoting these kinds of links, because I find the whole idea of someone profiting (in one way or another) from luring people to click these links, wrong. </p>
<p>What ever happened to just promoting a good project? Do people really have to get something in return before they&#8217;ll pay their respects?</p>
<p>Note: No affiliate links can be found in this entry.</p>
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		<title>IDN could be big, but it&#8217;s not</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2004/02/04/idn-could-be-big-but-its-not/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a long time it has been possible to use chars such as Ã¦Ã¸Ã¥Ã¼Ã¶Ã© etc. in .com and .net domains. However it is only possible to browse to these domains if you either own a mozilla browser, or have downloaded this IDNplugin to Internet Explorer.
Now, one whom uses Mozilla will get an all-around nice experience [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a long time it has been possible to use chars such as Ã¦Ã¸Ã¥Ã¼Ã¶Ã© etc. in .com and .net domains. However it is only possible to browse to these domains if you either own a <a href="http://mozilla.org/products/firebird">mozilla browser</a>, or have downloaded this <a href="http://idnnow.com">IDNplugin</a> to Internet Explorer.</p>
<p>Now, one whom uses Mozilla will get an all-around nice experience of browsing these domains since he will not notice any &#8220;Install this plugin&#8221; dialogs etc.<br />
I myself was rather supprised to find out that mozilla supported this.</p>
<p>E-mail is another problem with <a href="http://www.i-d-n.net/">IDN domains</a>.<br />
Webmails such as <a href="http://hotmail.com">hotmail</a> and a large amount of other webmails does not support sending to these types of domains, thereby if your primary domain is an IDN domain you are not likely to be getting a whole lot of email (and no spam?).<br />
You can however send e-mail to IDN domains if you are the owner of Outlook Express or Outlook (not Outlook 2003).<br />
Again the use of IDN domains in Microsoft programs is 100% dependent on the IDNplugin, Microsoft did show some interest in supporting these domains by default at some point, but then backed out &#8211; leaving the whole IDN concept dead in the water. Strangely enough Mozilla Mail/Thunderbird does not support the use of IDN domains in emails, <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127399">yet</a>.</p>
<p>Another problem is internationalization, since an English keyboard does not come with Ã¦Ã¸Ã¥ on them they will find it hard to visit your site or send you email. It&#8217;s not very polite to require them to know the ALTGR + [0-9] combination for the chars.</p>
<p>I can understand why someone would want an IDN domain to be their secondary domain, since it&#8217;s a nice feature to both own rene.com and renÃ©.com &#8211; but only owning renÃ©.com would be silly, since e-mail support is rather non-existent with IDN domains.</p>
<p>Its popularity is largely dependant on e-mail, therefore I think Microsoft should get out of the starting holes and put some effort into supporting these new domains. So you don&#8217;t have to download some silly plug-in to use them as normal domains.</p>
<p>The whole concept seems to be somewhat broken :)</p>
<p>[ end rant]</p>
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		<title>Angry post about Firebird changes</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/08/07/angry-post-about-firebird-changes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2003 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In recent Mozilla Firebird builds, the otherwise standerdized way of displaying the application name in the window titles has been removed, where you would normally see &#8220;My blog &#8211; Mozilla Firebird&#8221;, there is now only &#8220;My Blog&#8221; and nothing when opening a new tab, I therefore wrote&#8230; in anger, this post to the Firebird forum
The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In recent Mozilla Firebird builds, the otherwise standerdized way of displaying the application name in the window titles has been removed, where you would normally see &#8220;My blog &#8211; Mozilla Firebird&#8221;, there is now only &#8220;My Blog&#8221; and nothing when opening a new tab, I therefore wrote&#8230; in anger, this post to the Firebird forum</p>
<p><i>The Firebird developers needs to realize that while THEY may like that the title does not contain &#8221; &#8211; Mozilla Firebird&#8221; the rest of the world doesn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>I am extremely surprised by the act of adding this &#8230; FEATURE&#8230;. It does not seem like the true spirit of Mozilla, or opensource, to forcefully implement a feature which has no backing by the target audience, only by the developers themselves.</p>
<p>A vote should clearly have been made, or a post the a newsgroup, about this feature&#8230; While I respect the developers in creating this wonderful browser, they should also realize that what THEY may like, is not necessarily what the rest of us (or the end-users) like.</p>
<p>And instead of saying &#8220;no comment&#8221; or closing bugs filed about the issue.. they should make their case for this change, because I see NO LOGIC in it&#8217;s existence</i></p>
<p>It should be noted that I wrote this right after watching &#8220;revolution OS&#8221;, which sparked this post. While it may seem harsh, I really do not understand why developers ignore the tons of comments and objections about this &#8220;feature&#8221;. The very least the developers could do was to make their case about the change, but no&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Update: Dave Hyatt <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215296#c10">argues</a> that since nobody ever saw the &#8220;Mozilla Firebird&#8221; part in their taskbar anyway, there was no need for it.. At the same time he says it caused problems on Mac&#8230; Well buhu! Then make it go away on Macs&#8230; I don&#8217;t want my favorite product spoiled by Mac&#8230;</p>
<p>If it ain&#8217;t broken.. <font color='#FF0000'>DONT FIX IT!</font></b></p>
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		<title>Use Mozilla Firebird, today, now!</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/08/06/use-mozilla-firebird-today-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this small announcement about marketing Mozilla Firebird, I decided to try and convince my parents to use the Mozilla Firebird Browser.
I&#8217;ve long put it of because I never felt Firebird was userfriendly enough for my newbie parents to use.
So I started out by installing version 0.6.1 ( To avoid that AutoComplete bug ), [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading <a href="http://www.blakeross.com/firebird/marketing.html">this small announcement</a> about marketing <a href="http://texturizer.net/firebird/">Mozilla Firebird</a>, I decided to try and convince my parents to use the <a href="http://texturizer.net/firebird/">Mozilla Firebird Browser</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long put it of because I never felt Firebird was userfriendly enough for my newbie parents to use.</p>
<p>So I started out by installing <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/release-notes.html">version 0.6.1</a> ( To avoid that AutoComplete bug ), using <a href="http://seb.mozdev.org/firebird/">the windows installer</a>. I then asked them if they wanted to learn how to <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/">block popups</a> and my dad quickly started talking about how he hated all the spam he was getting and all those popups he got in his face when he visited his daily sites.<br />
And so, I pulled the rabbit out of the hat and showed him <a href="http://texturizer.net/firebird/">Mozilla Firebird</a>.<br />
I showed him how it would block popups and how he could use tabs for smarter browsing and get a better overview. He really liked it, all he asked was that I imported his Internet Explorer bookmarks. I had to create a new Firebird profile to do that, that could be made easier?!</p>
<p>Anyway, my dad told my mum and now they are both giving Firebird a good and fair try on their computer&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess i Firebird Conversion Score is <b>8</b> now :)</p>
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		<title>Internet Explorer is fucked up</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/05/31/internet-explorer-is-fucked-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2003 18:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I was willing to give Microsoft a chance to make Internet Explorer better, it seems they have no plans to implement full PNG support, which is serriouly bad for all webdesigners. PNG is by far the best format out there, allowing webdesigners to use full alpha transparancy.
I could care less that there will be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was willing to give Microsoft a chance to make Internet Explorer better, <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/itcommunity/chats/trans/ie/ie0507.asp">it seems</a> they have no plans to implement full PNG support, which is serriouly bad for all webdesigners. <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-png">PNG</a> is by far the best format out there, allowing webdesigners to use full alpha transparancy.</p>
<p>I could care less that there will be no further standalone IE version, but I do however think it is poor attitude by Microsoft to just throw away PNG support.<br />
I was also hoping to hear that Microsoft would think about making their browser standard compliant, but there is also little chance of that.</p>
<p><a href="http://texturizer.net/firebird/">Use Firebird!</a></p>
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		<title>Internet Explorer sucks :(</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/05/18/internet-explorer-sucks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2003 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#8217;t anyone tell me my blog looked ugly in Internet Explorer&#8230;
I wish people would start to use a Gecko based browser, Internet Explorer is just starting to bug me way to much! :(
*btw* I know the images are causing some problems, I just can&#8217;t get it to work right&#8230; But I&#8217;m working on it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t anyone tell me my blog looked ugly in Internet Explorer&#8230;</p>
<p>I wish people would start to use a Gecko based browser, Internet Explorer is just starting to bug me way to much! :(</p>
<p>*btw* I know the images are causing some problems, I just can&#8217;t get it to work right&#8230; But I&#8217;m working on it :)</p>
<p>*UPDATE* ok, so why the hell is Firebird having problems, when IE has none&#8230; The world is up-side-down</p>
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		<title>Calm the motherfirebird down</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/05/16/calm-the-motherfirebird-down/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2003 20:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Asa posted this link in this entry on his weblog.
Very funny, and true, so I wanted to share&#8230;
You call things names, you end up being called names: that&#8217;s just the way these things go.
First there was the hyper-active farce of Firebird (the Mozilla browser) versus Firebird (the  database).
For those of you not bothering to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/asa/">Asa</a> posted <a href="http://www.ntk.net/2003/05/16/">this link</a> in <a href="http://www.mozillazine.org/weblogs/asa/archives/003305.html">this entry</a> on his weblog.</p>
<p>Very funny, and true, so I wanted to share&#8230;</p>
<p>You call things names, you end up being called names: that&#8217;s just the way these things go.<br />
First there was the hyper-active farce of Firebird (the Mozilla browser) versus Firebird (the  database).<br />
For those of you not bothering to keep up, Firebird the database was a fork of software that was called Interbase which was owned by Borland a company which used to be called Inprise and before that used to be called Borland, deep  breath.<br />
You&#8217;d think the Firebird developers would by now be accustomed to the transitory nature of names, but nooo. They were *shocked* when Mozilla started using the term Firebird, and insisted they were the *only* Firebird on the block, even  though<br />
a) there were dozens of software Firebirds before them  (including BT&#8217;s short-lived games division) and<br />
b) the only  thing anyone can remember about Firebird the DB was that it had massive security hole wired into it by Borland/Inprise/Borland that took them six months to find.<br />
Dire threats were  hurled, until Mozilla pointed out that the Firebird name was just the semi-internal *project* name, and since no-one calls the current browser &#8220;Seamonkey&#8221; (*its* project name), they  should calm the motherfirebird down &#8211; nobody cares about you or your weirdo legacy software&#8230;<br />
Couldn&#8217;t agree more</p>
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		<title>Firebird yadda</title>
		<link>http://www.tomsommer.dk/2003/04/27/firebird-yadda/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2003 00:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Sommer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this useless talk about Firebird-SQL being mad and Firebird being a bad name for &#8220;Phoenix&#8221;&#8230;
I have to admit at first I hated it, but now it&#8217;s starting to grow on me. It&#8217;s also obvious that The Mozilla Developers are sticking to the name and are not going to change it, well great, be quiet [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this useless talk about <a href="http://firebird.sourceforge.net/">Firebird-SQL</a> being mad and Firebird being a bad name for &#8220;Phoenix&#8221;&#8230;<br />
I have to admit at first I hated it, but now it&#8217;s starting to grow on me. It&#8217;s also obvious that The Mozilla Developers are sticking to the name and are not going to change it, well great, be quiet Firebird SQL&#8230;</p>
<p>I read an <a href="http://reactor-core.org/mozilla-position-on-firebird.html">Interview with an unknown Mozilla Developer</a>. I quote<br />
<i>&#8220;When referring to Thunderbird or Firebird before or during the 1.4 release cycle, make sure to use the project name with Mozilla pre-pended as &#8220;Mozilla Thunderbird&#8221; or &#8220;Mozilla Firebird&#8221; instead of Mozilla alone or Firebird/Thunderbird alone.&#8221;</i><br />
Jee, I wonder why. It should be rather obvious that The Developers are trying to make those sick <a href="http://firebird.sourceforge.net/">Firebird SQL</a> people happy&#8230; Anyway, &#8220;Mozilla Firebird&#8221; also sounds better than &#8220;Firebird&#8221; or &#8220;Firebird Browser&#8221;.</p>
<p>Firebird 0.6 is close to release, the lastest builds are somewhat bug-free, but there are still a number of small bugs &#8211; which are just annoying :)</p>
<p>BTW, check out the <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/why/">Reasons for changing to Firebird</a></p>
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